Company of Heroes Opposing Fronts

[messenger]

The new expansion has been somewhat announced! If you have been living in a cave then I shall save your sorry hide.
It includes the British and the German Panzer Elite (lol) as new factions.
http://relicnews.com/archives/2007/04/company-of-heroesopposing-fronts/ (http://relicnews.com/archives/2007/04/company-of-heroesopposing-fronts/)
http://www.relicrank.com/bloggo/2007/04/05/buggos-podcast-3-official-relic-announcement-company-of-heroes-opposing-fronts/
Definitely sounds interesting, if not historical.

[messenger]

Should be great, looks like we can just mod the Brits rather then have to start doing them :D.

[Orrie]

:D

And the king-tiger doesn't have to be modeled!!!
ANDANDAND!!!! GERMAN TANK-BUSTER!!!!!!

[Orrie]

Listen To The News With BUGGO!!!

http://208.49.84.50/buggo/buggopodcast3.mp3

[messenger]

I are liking the new expansion, should add some interesting units to the game. Would we be able to mix and match the race's units or would that be illegal?


Edit- Post 300 woooooo!

[messenger]

Edit your posts into one. Also I heard it, sounds great, I love the British voices :D.

[Orrie]

Sorry :(:(

[messenger]

No probs although I still see a double post ;).

[Orrie]

Yeah but maybe you wouldn't see the post
:p

[NesQuik!]

yay Jagdpanther! my allround favorite tank! That add-on would totally make KMOD what it deserves to be! When does it come out? or isn't their a date on the site? I hope the KMOD still works with the addon! (think so, engine is the same?)

[Orrie]

Its comes out when its done XD as they say!

[Kyranzor]

Omfg This Makes Me Angry!

[Kyranzor]

Would we be able to mix and match the race's units or would that be illegal?
lol you smartass. lets just keep to ww2, we dont need a defiler or a baneblade in CoH..

i damnwell hope KMOD works with Opposing Front, because i am NOT re-doing all this, and its kind of good that they are already doing teh british, but as usual they will only half-do them, and we will have to make more and more stuff. lol

[Pvt.Jonez]

Agreed. Since it is on the same platform, it should work with the exp. pak. I didnt really get the jist of the game, or the interconnevtivity of reg COH and the exp, but i hope it is not a completely new game!! :mad:
And ya, same Company, same Devs, should be another half-ass historical attempt, just waiting to be Kmod-er-ized :D

[messenger]

Well if it follows the trend of Dawn of War, this next expansion will change the coding file format and then after that it is clean sailing.

[amp_kel]

I think so too, cause i read it'll include the new DX 10 capabality which can only be used in windows vista?!?

[messenger]

No it will work with XP, only afew people have vista compared to XP.

[Orrie]

I helps a bit...

The weird thing is that its not an expansion pack! Its a stand-alone game.
But if you have both its will be like 1 game. And the most weird is that those with COH: OP can play online with those who doesn't have it and vica verca.

[Kyranzor]

and CoH can already use Dx10.. look at hte graphics options :D

[messenger]

Kekekeke. This expansion should be good if we are allowed to put Jagdtigers into the Wehrmacht.

[Kyranzor]

dude - im a modder. anything is possible ;)

[messenger]

Yes but then would Relic jump on your ass bareback and start riding if you did?

[NesQuik!]

Kyran, can you become evil enough to export the Jagdpanther from the expansion into KMOD? I guess the relic-guys scripted it well, and gave it a nice soundpack. Maybe Halftrack can make it autumn-coloured like the rest of the tanks he skinned?

That would be soo coowl :D

[Perco]

I heard that they aren't doing any Airborne which pisses me off and when I try to register to tell them that, it never lets me register with the message: Sorry but this username has already been taken even if I hadn't yey choose my damn username. Well anyway, they say they're not going to do Airborne because all they have is "light infantry". They can just change the commander tree and the units to make them not have "light infantry". And yeah we should maybe get some of the realism stuff from them and put them into KMOD!

Oh wait, I found out how to register with them lol.

[messenger]

Yes you naughty soul. Also I suppose the yanks want all the airborne glory.

[Orrie]

Yes -_-....

OF its kinda weird.......
They should have added the russians instead of brits..

[messenger]

Why? The Brits played a major part in the war, it only makes sense.

[Orrie]

But they already got "allies" which is the Americans, which also come from the western front... I wanted the easter front to...

[messenger]

It would probably be easier to work through the western front to the eastern front as you need different terrain in the eastern front.

[Totenkopf]

i must say gents im rather dissapointed it wont be out till this Fall....although that meens its gonna be AMZAING!:D

[messenger]

Hopefully yes, I can't wait to play KMODized Brits :D.

[Totenkopf]

OMFG its gonna be awesome! i will sit in this here chair waiting dillagently for the release!

[whitewolfmxc]

ok heres some reveiws on the game a PC game magazine :

WARNING the fellowing articles contain some serious spoilers, if you dont wish to know about them please dont look at it XD


SPOILERS such as : THERE WILL BE UNIT STANCE FUNCTION ADDED XD

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[whitewolfmxc]

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[whitewolfmxc]

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[messenger]

Great find whitewolf, have a cookie. This expansion sounds really good now, I can't wait to play KMOD on it :D.

[Kyranzor]

yeah, screw COH ima wait for OF.. i am almost shitting myself with delight at all this stuff i can mod!!!! :O OMFG!!

[messenger]

I thought you were saying it was stupid :P.
Trenches will be awesome.

[Orrie]

OMGGOMGOGM

The Jagdpanther is delicious!

[messenger]

No I find that it tastes abit metallic :D.
I just can't wait to use Marder and all those other tanks.

[Orrie]

And the might KING TIGER!!! :D

[Pvt.Jonez]

I hope the best thing will be to mod the officers and static HQs that they say only for the british for the german and regular Wehermhat units. They we can expand the innovations of the Expansion pack to the regular games.

[Kyranzor]

with all these new features that i can twist and bend and mod and apply to anything and everything.. its just soo awesome

[messenger]

But then again, will we be allowed to mod CoH and OF together or would that be an illegal move back 5 spaces?

[Pvt.Jonez]

I really hope so, there is so much potential when you put them both together, perhaps if you even put the Wehmerhat in the regular game in the same game (ON THE SAME MAP) with the new Panzer Elite. I tend to belive is just a niced-down version of the Waffen-SS. It sounds like well have to mod that bad boy.

[whitewolfmxc]

Ready For More Spoilers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeee Hah Baby Here I Come !!!!!! XD

PS: there are total of two trailers in the zip uploaded by me ! one is for opssing front one is just normal COH , enjoy XD

http://www.megaupload.com/cn/?d=D43137L0

[Can't think]

dunno if this has been brought up but when they release OF for COH will u be modding that as well cos i hope u do as u bring back the spark that i first felt when i started play COHlol

[FiffA]

Yes if the expansion pack doesn't allow us to transfer it over, we will start from scratch again and start getting code over so all can play KMOD with OF :D

And that is kinda good thing acctually becouse then we kinda clean up the code more, making KMOD even better :D

[messenger]

OF should be awesome as it gives us many more tanks, units and abilities to toy with :D.

[johnyoga1]

Men,

As far as vanilla goes, all of the OF units will not be available to each person. IOWs, The US can't also use the British units in their selection, correct?

That would, I hope, leave the KMODers to allow for this full selection of units available for a person to use.

John

[Madturnip]

The expansion will work just like a mod. You will only have access to what is available either in the vanilla COH folder or the sub-folder that the expansion will install too. Now it would be cool if they added everything to the default engine, but that wont work (to my knowledge.)

What I am pretty sure the Dev. Team will do once these EXP. are released is to just take the models they need and use them that way, but then again I can't speak for the dev team. There possibly may need to be a COH:KMOD and a COH:OF:KMOD. I am sure Relic/THQ wouldn't appreciate our modders moving models out of the expansion pack into a single KMOD release.

However, I think that if you are running OP and have the KMOD that is designed for it you should be able to use VANILLA units and OF units. The same may not be true for future expansions. Let's say the bring out a pacific expansion -- I don't think the vanilla, OF units, and the pacific ones would all be available at the same time to KMOD. I could be wrong, but I will let the DEV. TEAM answer it.

[Can't think]

sounds gd and thanks for answering

[NomisGnos]

"A clean code is a happy code."

[messenger]

I think any combination of units is possible provided you have the expansions, things could get very messy very fast once there are expansions out though as you will need to make multiple versions of a mod for different groups of people to play. I am sure the dev team will have to make some tough decisions on this matter in the future but for now, Opposing Fronts should be good news for mods.

[Pvt.Jonez]

I really hope relic wont be a-holes like EA games and release about 3 exp-paks (Hence BF1942) and charge an arm, leg, and testicle for them. .[cry] That will just make me frekin angry. Hopefully they either just do OF and then we can mod japs and russians, or they just release 2 paks, OF and one that includes Russians and Japs, and then we can move on to modding other fractions like Chinese, Dutch, French, Finns, Norwegiens etc. insted of spending our time on russians and Japs which the Dev team would have to do if Relic didnt make an expo pak. Anyway thats thinking very very far ahead.

Ah well, we can hope [ThumbUp]

[messenger]

Relic are releasing each 'expansion' as a separate game so in order to play with the factions you have to buy the 'expansion' however you can play against 'expansion' factions no probs. Crazy huh?

[johnyoga1]

What may happen is when WORLD IN CONFLICT comes out, most will abandon COH...

John

[messenger]

What is World in Conflict?

[LtSoucy]

ya guys so u know the OP is a new game meaning u dont need vCOH to run it and that means larger files on ur PC:(

[messenger]

If you know about OF you are bound to have heard it's a separate game however that doesn't really mean larger files...

[LtSoucy]

ok read up look at vCoH large file. And this vCoH and OF to gather make huge file.

[messenger]

Well you don't have to get it if you don't want to. Like it or not, we are in a new age of filesizes where things over 2 gb in size are common, file sizes are now getting alot bigger alot faster so get used to these 'huge files'.

[Orrie]

I just hope the Tera bites hard-drives starts to come, ASAP ( I know some of them are out, but they are small ^^)

[Token]

I just picked up a 320 gig HD... Why? Because it was on sale for 100 bucks. Western Digital. Not bad at all.[ThumbUp]

[messenger]

I have one 80 GB one 15GB and one 250GB :P.

[Pvt.Jonez]

On Topic Plz!!

[Foxtrot360]

From what I heard from a fellow CoH player World In Conflict's beta doesent have that "tactical" feel that CoH has, and you can airdrop tanks, which isnt realistic, pfft.

Anyway back on topic, I think it would be cooler if you guys made a KMOD for the Opposing Fronts but keep it based on the British and Panzer units instead of the original CoH.

[Lt.Hippo]

Can someone tell me... will there only be 2 factions to play as. No factions from the original? What happens if i buy the first and expansion, will there be all the factions?

[Tigerkiller]

With both games yes, you will have all factions to play as in MP, but I don't all factions are included in the expansion.

[messenger]

If by airdropping tanks you mean using a Hercules to land and deploy them then it is realistic :P.

[Heiskanen]

From what I heard from a fellow CoH player World In Conflict's beta doesent have that "tactical" feel that CoH has, and you can airdrop tanks, which isnt realistic, pfft.

Just gotta say that the tank in question being airdropped is the M551 Sheridan, a tank designed for both airdrop and amphibious operations. Having also played the beta I can't really see how he missed the tactical element, seeing as how bot the Tactical Aid menu and teamwork are key elements to victory.

But then again, WiC caters to one part of my gaming variety and CoH and KMOD to another. It's all good fun.

[messenger]

I personally can't wait for WiC, it looks epic.

[Orrie]

THIS IS FOR OPPOSING FRONTS NOT WORLD IN CONFLICT!

Follow the thread!

[Rommel]

Yup opposing fronts... Not only do I have to fight the Americans Now I have to fight the BRITISH! i heard that you can now build Trenches in game as well as a variety of other new addtions to opposing fronts.



P.S. Where are the Russians in Company of Heroes?

P.P.S. Air Droping tanks? Being A World War 2 History buff i don't think that was even achievable.

[messenger]

We were talking about a different game lol.
Anyway, Russians probably will be on an expansion after this one, a nice epic battle or two surely won't go amiss.

[Rommel]

But come on why did the first game not have the Russians? I mean Germans versus Russians? that has some combat on the epic scale.

P.S. last time I checked the forum had to do with COH: OF
am I missing something?

[Dietrich]

But come on why did the first game not have the Russians? I mean Germans versus Russians? that has some combat on the epic scale.

The Western Allies fought the Axis because they felt they needed to stop fascism. The Soviets (not just Russians, there were plenty of other peoples in the USSR at that time) fought because they thought of the Axis, especially the Germans, as their hated enemy. Ostfront veterans transferred to France were shocked at how the opposing sides sometimes stopped firing at each other so as to recover their wounded; in Russia, these veterans knew, the Soviets would drive their tanks right over their own wounded to continue attacking the Germans(!) My research has indicated that the bloodiest, most vicious fighting (other than the defensive battles fought by the Japanese) was between the Germans and the Soviets. Both sides respected each other as far as certain things; but the Germans tended to think of the Soviets as subhumans, and the Soviets absolutely hated the Germans.

I don't know how many US and British Commonwealth divisions ended up fighting in Europe, but they faced only one-eighth of the German army (Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS) and it still took them nearly a year to reach Berlin. Meanwhile, the other seven-eighths of the German army struggled to hold back the Soviet 'Red Tide.'

[messenger]

Let's face it though, the Soviets had an army twice the size of the US and British (Commonwealth) or more in a much more concentrated front, the Germans hadn't as much to lose if they lost to the Allies as they were fighting to topple Hitler not the people. The Soviets on the other hand were absolutely nuts after the killings of their people in the early German offensive and were planning to do the same to the Germans.
Who would you deploy most of your army to stop, the guys who just want to get rid of you or the guys that want to kill you, rape your hamster and throttle your children in their sleep?

[Orrie]

KILL THE COMMINSTS!!!!! In the aftermath, I think that the commonwealth would have changed their minds if they knew what The Soviet Scumpire (Empire) really was up too. If they just knew it before WW2, there would have been another story told today, A WHOLE NEW STORY!!!
Western Allies + Axis VS Soviet + WHOLE ASIA (exept Japan, which was Axis), MAJOR EPIC BATTLE!!!!!

[messenger]

China was being helped by the Americans at the time, it is more likely they would join the Allies, not to mention Burma and countries like that which owed their freedom to the British.

[Orrie]

Maybe, but it is alternativ history, so noone knows :P

[Dietrich]

Let's face it though, the Soviets had an army twice the size of the US and British (Commonwealth) or more in a much more concentrated front, the Germans hadn't as much to lose if they lost to the Allies as they were fighting to topple Hitler not the people. The Soviets on the other hand were absolutely nuts after the killings of their people in the early German offensive and were planning to do the same to the Germans.
Who would you deploy most of your army to stop, the guys who just want to get rid of you or the guys that want to kill you, rape your hamster and throttle your children in their sleep?

Indeed.

Western Allies vs. Germans = political war. Death and destruction.

Germans vs USSR = ideological war. Genocide and gebrannte Erde (scorched earth).

The magazine article that (I think) whitewolf posted about Opposing Fronts made note of the changing-weather factor in the new CoH game. Since weather proved to be such a factor in the Eastern Front war (winter far colder than the Germans were used to; Panzer-swallowing mud in both autumn and spring; heat and choking dust in summer), I wonder to what extent a future Germans-vs-Soviets CoH installment might factor in the surprisingly inhospitable environment.

In the final weeks/days of the war, a number of German troops escaped westward so as to be captured by the US or the British Commonwealth, so as to not be taken prisoner by the Soviets. For example, Erich Hartmann, the highest-scoring fighter pilot ever (352 kills; next-highest had 301) was given the option by his commanding officer to fly westward to escape the oncoming Soviets. Hartmann chose to stay, sticking by his fellow pilots and the nearby civilians, and he spent the next 10 years of his life in a labor camp.

[messenger]

Yup, those Soviets certainly know how to make losers feel bad.

[Orrie]

Here is the official features for Opposing Fronts:

Two New Armies: Play as the British 2nd Army or German Panzer Elite, each with devastating command trees options and unit upgrades.
Two Full Campaigns: Command the British 2nd Army to liberate the key strategic position of Caen, France. Control the German Panzer Elite to repel the Allied airborne invasion in Operation Market Garden.
Real War, Real Battlefields, Real War Enhanced: Mission Persistence, Dynamic Weather Effects, Enhanced Vehicle Tactics and more deliver a new level of realism and all new battlefield tactics.
All new Multiplayer Modes: Combine Company of Heroes™: Opposing Fronts™ with the original Company of Heroes for a total of four playable armies online. Join British artillery with American armor to dominate the Third Reich or utilize Wehrmacht and Panzer divisions to annihilate the Allied invasion.
DirectX® 10 Support: The highest rated RTS franchise features enhanced lighting effects and terrain details setting new standards in visual realism.http://www.companyofheroesgame.com (http://www.companyofheroesthegame.com/)

[panzerleader]

next installment will be Battle of the Bulge;I would prefer russia and italians added my self.Relic has to make a buck so I bet BotB wins out

[Nizzmo]

So i dont know if this is the right spot to ask about it but is there anyway to make a pop mod for OF cause its kinda lame not being able to make a reasonable size force to go run over people with:-D